Microtech 121-1 PU Ultratech S/E Standard Purple/Black 204P Microtech. Never used, carried or sharpened. HANDLE MATERIAL 6061 T6 Aluminum. American-made CTS-204P is the close equivalent to Bohler- Uddeholm M390. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. These steels are essentially identical, just made by different companies. ). As mentioned before, the blade features a 204p composition, which is very similar to M390 and 20CV. The knives are created with close tolerances and exacting dimensions to ensure the ultimate precision tool. $294.98 (No reviews yet) Write a Review. Microtech Combat Troodon OTF Automatic Knife Tan 3.8" 204P S/E Black Drop Point 143-1TA Microtech Knives. I'm sure this question has been answered somewhere, just wondering … The SOCOM Elite® Manual sets the standard for tactical/utility cutlery. for a slightly different feel, compared to their other handles. I’m happy to say the same about this 204P-laden Ultratech! We trust and sell great brands such as Spyderco, Benchmade, Microtech & many more! I've read that M390 and 204P should be the same, and 20CP and S90V should be the same, with 20CP/S90V being a bit better in edge retention than 204P/M390. In operation since 1998, BladeForums.com has led the industry since Day 1. It all began with a sketch on a piece of paper over 25 years ago. M390. lineup, ... *Blade steel for 2020 will be Carpenter CTS 204 P / Carpenter XHP / Bohler M390 / Bohler ELMAX® , message us for steel type! I think most of us would have a hard time telling much difference in any of them. Spyderco M390 compared with Microtech CTS-204P Discussion in ' Knife Reviews & Testing ' started by Gunsnknives , Aug 1, 2012 . Microtech UTX85 (232-1 in 204P Steel) https://gearbarrel.com/products/microtech-utx-85-d-e-otf-automatic-3-125-black-232-1 At GearBarrel.com microtech ultratech otf automatic knife tan s/e 3.4" 204p satin 121-4ta A coworker recently showed me his new Microtech Dirac Delta D/E OTF knife and I was so blown away with the quality I decided to retire my Schrade Extreme Automatic that I'd carried for the last 15 years. I also reformatted the table for easier (and more space efficient) reading. Microtech TROODON Red D/E 138-1RD From cutting with M390 (and CTS-204P) to S90V, I get the feeling that S90V will keep a working edge for a VERY LONG time. Microtech Knives remains one of the best manufacturer of quality automatic knives. Microtech knives are the pinnacle of edged tools so they are relatively expensive, ... At current, the best blade steels available are Bohler M390 and Carpenter CTS-204P, this Dirac is made from the latter. This version has a Blue contoured handle with black hardware and Tanto-style CTS-204P blade. We select blade steels for knives based on availability. Blade: Equipped with a brilliant two-tone black/satin finish, the Tanto point has a plain standard cutting edge. Each knife is built by hand after it leaves the machining process. M390 vs CTS-204P. We also offer sharpening services! Microtech Knives was established in 1994 in Vero Beach, Florida relocating to Bradford, Pennsylvania in 2005. Paid Subscribers don't see ads! All of our knife blades are made of either CTS-204P, M390, Elmax, or CTS-XHP. Our passion is in the American stories behind each material made. After researching this particular O.T.F. Microtech Knives | 225-1 Dirac D/E - Black Blade - Black Handle. Tests show that M390 steel is slightly superior to ELMAX in edge retention/wear resistance, having scored a 958.6 on the CATRA TCC test- as opposed to ELMAX's 930.7. CTS-204P, Bohler M390, and CPM-20CV are essentially the same steels, just made by different companies. CTS-204P (16) CTS-204P Stainless Steel ... M390 (11) Blade Style Bayonet (1) Clip Point (1) Double Edge Dagger (20) Drop Point (6) Hawkbill (2) Spear Point (1) Tanto (4) Sort By: Compare Add ... Microtech. This steel along with M390 is effectively the best possible metal currently available to use as edged tools. It holds an edge about 1/2 to 2/3 as long as M390… Using the best materials and made in the USA, Microtech Knives has few competitors. Bohler M390, CTS-204P, and CPM-20CV are all essentially the same steel and sport a near identical composition. As for the manufacturing process, Carpenter's gen 2 process should produce as fine powder as Bohler-Uddeholm's Gen 3 PM does. S90V demonstrated no edge damage, like the PM2 in M390. I think that the difference is in the heat treatment. Discussion in 'Knife Reviews & Testing' started by Gunsnknives, Aug 1, 2012. Our engineering team works hard to assure the production of the knife runs as smooth as possible. We now boast 100% American built in-house. Microtech 135-1 LUDT AUTO 3.375" Black Plain Blade, Milled Alumin… With significant amounts of Chromium, Molybdenum, Vanadium, and Tungsten, these steels are 100% ready for action. CTS 204P and M390 are essentially the same (minor differences, I believe), but one batch could be heat treated differently from another which would account for the greatest difference between them. For 2020, one of our main go to steels is Carpenter CTS-204P. The Microtech 232-10 UTX-85 features a black handle, and a double edge dagger M390 or CTS-204P steel blade with a stonewash finish. Vanax would also be expected to have superior corrosion resistance though M390 is likely better than Elmax. For 2020, one of our main go to steels is Carpenter CTS-204P. Come to Patreon if you want updates on testing as it is completed. As with any steel though, it has its benefits and its problems. Day by day, we improve our methods and make sure each product leaves the factory with the very best quality. Free shipping $50 & up! March 30, 2020 Larrin. Over the years we have used various top-shelf materials for our prototype, custom, and core products. UPC: ... As the flagship model of the Microtech® O.T.F. For sale new in box Microtech Socom Elite with CTS-204P Steel Blade and Tan Aluminum Handle , Model: 160-1TA This knife is brand new. Note: The blade steel may vary between Bohler Elmax, M390 or 204P. M390 vs 20CV vs 204P – 3rd Generation Powder Metallurgy Technology? Very interesting, but I expected Carpenter's steel to be superior. Full line of Microtech Automatic knives, Microtech Ultratech, microtech Combat Troodon, Microtech UTX-85, Microtech halo V, Microtech UTX-70 Microtech in stock. $495.00 (Earn 1485 Reward Points) ... Microtech Combat Troodon OTF Automatic Knife S/E 3.8" M390 Satin Drop Point 143-5. Every few years Microtech changes the blade steel they use, only because the best “super steel” is newly developed through time. Blade geometry has a big factor in those tests. Learn about the materials, design process, and manufacturing of MICROTECH® KNIVES. Microtech Exocet Champagne Gold Black 204P Plain Double Edge CA Legal OTF Auto 157-1CG In Stock Model # MT-157-1CG-204P It did not do quite as well as S110V or LC200N. A friend of mine tested Para 2 S35VN and Socom Elite in the same steel on manila rope. In my corrosion resistance testing, M390 scored very well (I tested CTS-204P), better than S30V, S35VN, S90V, and SG2, and probably a bit better than S45VN. I have owned and used a CPM-20CV Mini Griptilian for a few years and have loved every second with that steel. For maximum edge retention, go CTS 204P. Overall it’s a popular choice thanks to its high wear and corrosion resistance, it’s premium steel and because of that its a great pick for high end or limited-edition knives. After the initial drawing concept, we move to our engineering department for precise 3D models with flawless specifications. Our pride runs deep in the materials we choose to deliver a perfect knife. ... (3.125" Black 204P) 233-1T $ 257.00 Sold Out. Para 2 did 130 cuts before it refused to cut paper, MT did 200 cuts. M390 is an awesome steel– It’s one of the most commonly used “supersteels” out there. It features CTS-204P steel blade Microtech Knives was established in 1994 in Vero Beach Florida. I am wondering if the better edge retention and micro chipping may be an indication of a hardness difference. In terms of Rockwell C Hardness, however, ELMAX, at 62, scored higher than M390's 61. It’s a steel that’s well regarded as today’s most well rounded higher end steel. American-made CTS-204P is the close equivalent to Bohler- Uddeholm M390. Edge retention testing is continuing, we have now tested 18 different steels, and four of those steels with multiple heat treatments. CTS-204P(Carpenter) - Carpenter's equivalent of Bohler-Uddeholm M390 steel and Latrobe Duratech 20CV steel.Slightly more Tungsten(W) 0.65% instead of 0.60% in other two. Is there a reason people prefer M390 over CTS-204P? Thank you for the test. Since there seems to be a somewhat unexplained difference in performance (except maybe more metal behind the cutting edge), I tested my S90V Millie (usually a drawer queen). We use nothing but the highest rated premium metals, carbon fiber, aluminum, plastics, and other project-specific materials. The Dirac is Microtech's first double action knife with a cover firing slider. The M390 knife steel is identical to the CPM 20CV or the CTS-204P in comparison of hardness(62HRC). I cannot claim that CTS-204P is or isn't better than M390 but I do like the MT over the Spyderco for the two specimen I tested. If you like a well rounded steel, Elmax is your best bet. The original SOCOM has remained a highly popular folding knife since its inception in 1996. From specs, they seem to be almost exactly the same steel. Source: Knife Steel Nerds. For example, the ZT0562CF is worth a lot more in M390. Edge retention seems comparable to M390...but it just seems to have more bite even though it would no longer slice phone book paper cleanly.